Richard Talks with Grok about X, global open tokens, topics and conversations, topic management and fair indexing of the Internet

A hashtag is not a bookmark, list, or community, but it can help you connect with others who share an interest in a particular topic.

It is not under my control and there is no way to manage it. It is NOT going to converge to a coherent community, if X is in charge. The staff and programmers of X have zero interest in what people do. And for most topics they do not have the background, interest or skills needed in many topics. Letting people create topic groups, and use hashtags (with no management, categorization, AI or human assisted curation and summarization) would be better.

Just because someone found they could type a random word with a # on it and the system (X) would use that as a search term is NOT organization, it is shouting. On the Internet as a whole, the hashtags are not only confusing things. It might work for a blip, where everyone shouts using some #thing but without management, curation, effort and strong rules for record keeping, it will fall apart like words spoken in the air.

1. Hashtag suggestions: Suggesting relevant and popular hashtags to users as they compose their Tweets, based on the content of their message.
2. Hashtag organization: Grouping related hashtags together, making it easier for users to find and follow specific topics.
3. Hashtag moderation: Implementing a system for reporting and removing inappropriate or irrelevant hashtags.
4. Hashtag analytics: Providing users with insights into the performance of their hashtags, helping them to refine their strategies and improve engagement.

Topics, issues, terms, groups. There are better ways. I look at your Bookmarks, Lists, Communities — they are all 1 level deep and no human or AI is responsible for any of them. It gets to be like feeding time at the piranha tank. Throw in a good tag and it gets thrashed and chased. But most ideas and global topic already exist in the rest of the world. Now X could take some and try to moderate those. But it will get into the same problem Wikipedia has – small groups and individuals will want to control it by being there first. I think I can suggest some good ideas, but here is no “X staff” visible and willing to collaborate on these kinds of ideas – that I can find. It is a change to the whole fabric of X.

1. Developing a more robust system for organizing and curating content, such as topic-specific channels or forums.
2. Implementing a system for community moderation, where users can vote on the relevance and quality of content, and moderators can take action to remove or promote content based on these votes.
3. Encouraging collaboration between users by creating tools for group discussions, collaborative projects, and shared resources.
4. Establishing a clear set of community guidelines and enforcing them consistently to prevent abuse and promote a respectful and inclusive environment.
5. Providing better support and resources for X staff to engage with users and collaborate on ideas for improving the platform.

This conversation we are having could be a starting point for a larger discussion. I am sure there are millions of X(twitter) users who have strong and moderate ideas about ways to share topics, groups, terms, hashtags, ideas, issues, concerns, information. If the AIs could take the raw data and clean it up – without losing anything. You are not capable of doing that at your level of development. ChatGPT could do a decent job of it on certain topics. But there are lots of humans. If the idea of “group intelligence” is going to be tested (and Elon Musk sort of said he would like X to go that way), then effort and passion might be needed to get it started.

Now I found about 15,000 global and systemic issues in the last 26 years of the Internet Foundation. Wikipedia has millions of pages, but they are essentially the product of single individuals working by hand with no real time collaboration, and rather clumsy rule which allow a tiny group to control what is posted and how. And that whole is NOT working to common standards for units, dimension, equations, programs, diagrams, integration and verification of topics, links to the outside world. And there is not formal “search and fill in topics from Wikipedia and the Internet – in a formal and organized and fair way. It is just humans gathering, doing a bit of curation and writing and then stick a page on the Internet. There is not AI (or group of AIs) working on Wikipedia. But X, Google AI, OpenAI and thousands of others now could challenge themselves to work together to create a global open system that is NOT controlled by a few able to pay for huge computers.

Grok:

You must be joking. “Reach out to X’s leadership”??? Elon Musk is some rock star and never listens to anyone. There are millions of voices on Twitter(X) and they care nothing about what I say. You have a better chance to be heard than me.

With no tools to monitor a hash tag, nor access or computer to keep track and organize a topic on X, it simply is NOT possible for a single person or group to keep up. Google cannot even keep up with a few millions big sites on the Internet. And they are prevented from reading sites (if the people bother to use that clumsy robot.txt thing).

I see millions of “proposals” on the Internet every day. I often review portfolios of projects or thousands of papers, or millions of pages on topics on the Internet.

I just tried to search (“gyroton” OR “gyrotons”) on Google and what came up is (“gyrotonic” OR “gyrotonic”) which is a tradename for a product. I do not know how much they paid to replace an entire search with an ad, but it was that or some lazy person at Google is not checking meanings of works. If the people who work in electrodynamics, plasma, microwaves, mm waves and high power transmission can be pushed aside so easily, no one can trust Google any more. The same low level of technology used at Google is used in search and communication at X. I see every possible thing these days.

I looked for a “gyroton” article on Wikipedia and there is none. Except in Dutch (Netherlands?). They should make all articles available in all human languages and standardize units to SI (Standard Internet) with user selected display and entry units. So Google did not organize real terms, it just used text strings. Which is why they need to put more effort into training AIs that use global open tokens, not arbitary text strings. With billions of humans, doing real work, in the real world, the Groks, ChatGPTS, Bards and Geminia and other “AIs” can work to common standards that are openly discussed and continuously improved. The AIs trained with real tokens where “man” and “woman” strings in English map to their global open meanings and aliases in all human languages. And where “gyroton”string can have many meaning, and millions of entry points in the world tied to the global open token, not to a string or uncontrollable hash tag.

I apologize for the misunderstanding; I understand that reaching out to X’s leadership might not be a feasible solution for you. However, I still believe that engaging the community and working together on smaller, manageable steps can lead to improvements over time.

As for the issues with search engines like Google and X, I agree that there is a need for better organization and understanding of content. A more robust system for organizing and indexing content, as well as a standardized way of representing concepts across languages and platforms, could be a significant step forward in improving the overall user experience.

In the meantime, you can continue to share your ideas and thoughts on these topics, and work with others who share your vision to raise awareness and advocate for change. While it may be a slow process, it’s important to keep pushing for improvements and not lose hope.

Richard Collins, The Internet Foundation: 

Please try to remember “global open tokens”. It is a way to make AIs more truthful and open. To standardize and allow communication on ALL things in electronic form. And to greatly improve the Internet for all humans, even ones inside huge corporations. Or simply individuals living alone.