To be universal, some things need to be independent of the simulation playback rate.

Laboratory for Social Minds @LaboratoryMinds  How does, like, information, flow in conversation? How do, uh, speakers and listeners, like, cope?

We use LLMs and CANDOR to measure the information rate of human speech (just 13 bits/second!), and how disfluencies and backchannels help us manage it. https://arxiv.org/abs/2403.08890
Replying to @LaboratoryMinds

Then you should be able to follow and interpret global conversations on open topics, as the information flows and resonates, reflects, is absorbed, repeats, splits, combines and echos among – sometimes – billions of speakers. To make it more interesting, many of the speakers are groups – with histories, constraints, purposes and relations. Countries talk to each other in vast asynchronous simultaneous flows of goods, information, DNA and other things.
 
The only way your efforts will bear fruit if you use global verified and stable global tokens – based on real things, not arbitrary tokens or values only referenced locally to one LLM encoded input dataset. Further, all the current LLMs are highly biased since they take from the open and free Internet and mostly ignore copyrighted, verified or verifiable information. Code to real tokens, to real entities.
 

Do not play games. There are not enough human lifetimes to do it the way you are going. Processing slippery and unverifiable word sequences are too many. The time is wasted. And there are many things that need doing just to sustain 8 billion humans and related species. You can do it. Just require open verifiable training data, that is indexed and where all statements link to the sources and reasoning. It is easy to make things that look sort of OK. The world is full of “looks good enough”. Spend a decade or two and dig deeper, you will be happy you did.

Conversations between humans are worth very little individually. But conversations between countries, corporations, industries and global group can be a matter of life and death and survival. Move your focus to larger things and things that evolve over decades, not minutes. If the processes you discover have value, they will likely also apply to those myriad short time human word sequences too.  To be universal, some things need to be independent of the rate of time. Many such things exist where humans apply their familiar process memories to nanoSeconds, and GigaYears, between and beyond.

If you are capable of what you attempted, you are also likely able to do much more.

 
Richard Collins, The Internet Foundation
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