{"id":2418,"date":"2021-09-19T18:20:18","date_gmt":"2021-09-19T18:20:18","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=2418"},"modified":"2021-09-19T18:24:15","modified_gmt":"2021-09-19T18:24:15","slug":"sanskrit-tamil-sumerian-hangul-grammars-literacy-the-internet","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"\/?p=2418","title":{"rendered":"Sanskrit, Tamil, Sumerian, Hangul &#8211; grammars, literacy, the Internet"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"default-style\">Clif,<\/div>\n<div class=\"default-style\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"default-style\" style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">I am looking at the origins of Sumeria. The language is similar to Tamil, and the roots of the early languages include Sanskrit.<\/div>\n<div class=\"default-style\" style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"default-style\" style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">An Indian grammarian named Panini studied and formalized a grammar notation for Sanskrit in a way that is considered to be an early context free grammar.\u00a0 The reliance on &#8220;string rewriting rules&#8221; is foremost.<\/div>\n<div class=\"default-style\" style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"default-style\" style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Backus%E2%80%93Naur_form\">https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Backus%E2%80%93Naur_form<\/a> starts the history with Sanskrit and Panini.<\/div>\n<div class=\"default-style\" style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"default-style\" style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Rewriting\">https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Rewriting<\/a> is not a bad place to start when trying to simplify structured or formal documents including programs, mathematical forms, and many scientific papers that follow fairly strict rules on presentation.\u00a0 It might also fit poetry, but I did not have time to check.\u00a0 I think there are forms for poetry, whether that is useful I cannot guess.<\/div>\n<div class=\"default-style\" style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"default-style\" style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">I just studied the history of the Korean alphabet. This is a formal system of phonetic symbols, aimed at making it easy for speakers of Korean to write down the sounds so that others can reproduce the same sounds.\u00a0 That it became a writing system was secondary to its ability to let large groups of mostly illiterate readers and writers &#8211; at least talk to each other over distance and time.\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hangul\">https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hangul<\/a> King Sejong wrote the phonetic alphabet in 1443.\u00a0 It was said that a smart person could learn it in half a day, and the dumbest in ten days.\u00a0 It allowed a whole country to become literate (write on paper, read from paper) in a short time.\u00a0 But that did not happen until 1949 and the country already spoke one language fairly uniformly.\u00a0 Breaking with Chinese pictographs allowed everyone the ability to write down their words and thoughts to share with everyone else.\u00a0 Before that, the Chinese language capable ones held sway and control over everything.\u00a0 Leaving the illiterate as effectively slaves.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">The Chinese language simplification is continuing.\u00a0 The computer entry now relies on phonetic transcription rules.\u00a0 People decide what they would say out loud, write those phoneme (not sure if it is efficient or not), select the form they want, and the result is only shown in Chinese symbols.\u00a0 Stop at the phonetic form, and literacy would be greatly speeded.\u00a0 Illuminate and share what is known about the symbols and words and terms and identifiers entered &#8211; and it becomes sharing and knowledge.\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Chinese_Character_Simplification_Scheme\">https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Chinese_Character_Simplification_Scheme<\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"default-style\" style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"default-style\" style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">&#8220;Sanskrit computational linguistics&#8221; picks up the modern flavor of using a fairly formal human language with a fairly complete grammar as a computational language as well. Whether there are elements of a human language of that sort that could help in organizing computer languages &#8211; I think any effort to connect the objects and names inside these sterile computer programs to the real world and real things and real people &#8211; is worthwhile.\u00a0 Human-computer and computer-human origins do not have to preclude human-human or computer-computer users.\u00a0 Since these all are seen by humans as sequential or partial, then systems can have all HH HC CH CC modules and be complete.\u00a0 It is most effective to have them all visible and interactive, but no human has built a decent HH HC CH CC system that is complete.<\/div>\n<div class=\"default-style\" style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"default-style\" style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">I read your poem, but it was too personal to comment on.\u00a0 I think it needs another stanza.\u00a0 Or to be generalized to all people, not just one.<\/div>\n<div class=\"default-style\" style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"default-style\" style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Phil is learning and teaching his boys how to scuba dive.\u00a0 Hope Marcus is doing well.<\/div>\n<div class=\"default-style\" style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"default-style\">Richard<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Clif, I am looking at the origins of Sumeria. 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