{"id":18801,"date":"2024-12-11T10:42:42","date_gmt":"2024-12-11T10:42:42","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=18801"},"modified":"2024-12-11T10:49:50","modified_gmt":"2024-12-11T10:49:50","slug":"ilya-prigogine-was-only-one-of-many-he-did-write-about-gravity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"\/?p=18801","title":{"rendered":"Ilya Prigogine was only one of many. He did write about gravity. Nico Van Kampen"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"13\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"995ve\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"aa6fr\" data-offset-key=\"995ve-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"995ve-0-0\">\n<p><span data-offset-key=\"995ve-0-0\"><strong>reply to https:\/\/x.com\/curiouswavefn\/status\/1866536050090447050<\/p>\n<p>Ilya Prigogine was only one of many. He did write about gravity.\u00a0 Nico Van Kampen<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>When I was at UT Austin and hanging out with Prigogine&#8217;s group, there were many others around him who were as or more inciteful. I suggest you spend time and study what Nico Van Kampen was doing and saying. He was visiting a short time from Utrecht, but I remember him as one of the few people who could talk wisely about most any topic &#8211; from a deep perspective on how the human and natural worlds work. It is not sufficient to know how physics (the stuff to model the real nature around us), but also to model and predict the convoluted methods of human groups and biases, gaps and tendencies.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"13\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"dgstt\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"aa6fr\" data-offset-key=\"dgstt-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"dgstt-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"dgstt-0-0\">Prigogine and Kondepudi (Dilip) wrote about gravitational fields effect on chemical reactions. It is also about low cost detection. There are many ways to understand gravitational potential effects, that are not big &#8220;bang bang&#8221;. Nico would likely agree and have some stories to tell. I have few regrets in life, because no one can change the past. But I promised I would come visit him and never did. What we feel we ought to do, and what we are supposed to do, sometimes conflict.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"13\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"4c9eh\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"aa6fr\" data-offset-key=\"4c9eh-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"4c9eh-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"4c9eh-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-rbd-draggable-context-id=\"13\" data-rbd-draggable-id=\"cose8\">\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"aa6fr\" data-offset-key=\"cose8-0-0\">\n<div class=\"public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr\" data-offset-key=\"cose8-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"cose8-0-0\">Richard Collins, The Internet Foundation<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>reply to https:\/\/x.com\/curiouswavefn\/status\/1866536050090447050 Ilya Prigogine was only one of many. He did write about gravity.\u00a0 Nico Van Kampen When I was at UT Austin and hanging out with Prigogine&#8217;s group, there were many others around him who were as or more inciteful. I suggest you spend time and study what Nico Van Kampen was doing <br \/><a class=\"read-more-button\" href=\"\/?p=18801\">Read More &raquo;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[77,73,72,78,71,74,7,6,79,70,76,75],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-18801","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-all-global-open-devices","category-all-knowledge","category-all-languages","category-extended-atomic-and-nuclear-materials","category-formats","category-global-open-resources","category-gravitational-engineering","category-gravitynotes","category-immortal-entities-for-galactic-and-universal-colonization","category-internet-foundation","category-queegle-multitask","category-translation-ids"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18801","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=18801"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18801\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":18806,"href":"\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18801\/revisions\/18806"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=18801"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=18801"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=18801"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}