{"id":13667,"date":"2024-02-09T12:05:44","date_gmt":"2024-02-09T12:05:44","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=13667"},"modified":"2024-02-09T12:27:54","modified_gmt":"2024-02-09T12:27:54","slug":"an-internet-that-handles-feedback-suggestions-emerging-ideas-diffuse-topics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"\/?p=13667","title":{"rendered":"An Internet that handles questions, feedback, suggestions, emerging ideas, diffuse topics"},"content":{"rendered":"
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https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Desert_iguana<\/span> Every day I check random Wikipedia articles to trace out issues with methods of collaboration, or lack. This article, someone in Dec 2013 said, “<\/span>Unsourced material may be challenged and removed<\/span>“. Seen against the landscape of all GPT AIs now where they never cite sources, and create no new material of their own traceable to permanent uniquely identifiable “living” AIs and their mostly hidden operators – having AIs and humans responsibly verify things might be good, or an ultimate evil.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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What I wanted to suggest is the Wikipedia, Google, OpenAI, Twitter(X) (each making up its own rules), could do is simply maintain a method for open discussion,<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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They could put a section at the bottom of EVERY page on Wikipedia, Twitter, YouTube, GitHub, New York Times, MIT, NASA, etc etc etc – “Work in progress, questions, ideas, discussion”. So people always know where to put things. With AIs that have permanent memory, perhaps they can learn to (Monitor Record Study Improve and Share) for that kind of global, but now “mostly not done well” material. I have edited books and websites and managed projects with many pieces and players – it is not impossible to find methods and policies that allow people (and some AIs) to learn and share. <\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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If there are open issues or someone wants to find where information and knowledge fits in. Posting it “below the line” or “at the bottom” or “in the open discussion” – could be a routine way to (Monitor Record Study Improve and Share). <\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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During the first year of covid, I traced why it took so long and why diffusion was taking decades, not minutes. I thought there should have been curated sites to gather the information from all sources – bypassing the legacy and rigid reporting systems each mostly controlled for the benefit of a few – and then used “AIs with permanent memory, and open methods” to (Monitor Record Study Improve and Share).<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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In a sense, that needs to be a method for every website and group on the planet. I see the many armed conflicts now. Perhaps every issue has “disenfranchised” or ideas where there simply no way to discuss. But universal methods could work. I had hoped Elon Musk would follow through on open discussion. He probably looks at lots of chatter and ad revenues and is satisfied with a peek and a post now and then on X. And has no expectations or open plans for X and Xai. Helping groups to organize and clarify, by giving them universal tools, is usually not done well.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I put a lot of intersecting global issues here, but those are the kinds of things I have been trying to sort out for the 25 years of the Internet Foundation and about 25 years before that doing jobs for various global issues. I see it, I do not have resources for try to do it better, and see many things that are tried and probably could be refined – if the Internet were intelligent, had permanent memory and was allowed to help everyone.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I hate “artificial” (fake). But “machine intelligence”, “machine learning”, “computer learning” are possible. If any AI group would use permanent open memory to (Monitor Record Study Improve and Share) on all things.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I filed this under “An Internet that handles questions, feedback, suggestions, emerging ideas, diffuse topics”<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Richard Collins, The Internet Foundation<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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What I wanted to suggest is the Wikipedia, Google, OpenAI, Twitter(X) (each making up its own rules), could do is simply maintain a method for open discussion,<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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They could put a section at the bottom of EVERY page on Wikipedia, Twitter, YouTube, GitHub, New York Times, MIT, NASA, etc etc etc – “Work in progress, questions, ideas, discussion”. So people always know where to put things. With AIs that have permanent memory, perhaps they can learn to (Monitor Record Study Improve and Share) for that kind of global, but now “mostly not done well” material. I have edited books and websites and managed projects with many pieces and players – it is not impossible to find methods and policies that allow people (and some AIs) to learn and share. <\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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If there are open issues or someone wants to find where information and knowledge fits in. Posting it “below the line” or “at the bottom” or “in the open discussion” – could be a routine way to (Monitor Record Study Improve and Share). <\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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\n
\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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During the first year of covid, I traced why it took so long and why diffusion was taking decades, not minutes. I thought there should have been curated sites to gather the information from all sources – bypassing the legacy and rigid reporting systems each mostly controlled for the benefit of a few – and then used “AIs with permanent memory, and open methods” to (Monitor Record Study Improve and Share).<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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In a sense, that needs to be a method for every website and group on the planet. I see the many armed conflicts now. Perhaps every issue has “disenfranchised” or ideas where there simply no way to discuss. But universal methods could work. I had hoped Elon Musk would follow through on open discussion. He probably looks at lots of chatter and ad revenues and is satisfied with a peek and a post now and then on X. And has no expectations or open plans for X and Xai. Helping groups to organize and clarify, by giving them universal tools, is usually not done well.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I put a lot of intersecting global issues here, but those are the kinds of things I have been trying to sort out for the 25 years of the Internet Foundation and about 25 years before that doing jobs for various global issues. I see it, I do not have resources for try to do it better, and see many things that are tried and probably could be refined – if the Internet were intelligent, had permanent memory and was allowed to help everyone.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I hate “artificial” (fake). But “machine intelligence”, “machine learning”, “computer learning” are possible. If any AI group would use permanent open memory to (Monitor Record Study Improve and Share) on all things.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I filed this under “An Internet that handles questions, feedback, suggestions, emerging ideas, diffuse topics”<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Richard Collins, The Internet Foundation<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Desert_iguana Every day I check random Wikipedia articles to trace out issues with methods of collaboration, or lack. This article, someone in Dec 2013 said, “Unsourced material may be challenged and removed“. Seen against the landscape of all GPT AIs now where they never cite sources, and create no new material of their own traceable
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