{"id":1361,"date":"2021-05-19T17:06:42","date_gmt":"2021-05-19T17:06:42","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=1361"},"modified":"2021-05-19T19:20:49","modified_gmt":"2021-05-19T19:20:49","slug":"comment-on-odaiba-tokyo-live-webcam-standards-for-live-internet-data-streams-and-archives","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"\/?p=1361","title":{"rendered":"Comment on Odaiba Tokyo Live Webcam – Standards for live Internet data streams and archives"},"content":{"rendered":"
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I am watching your live webcam at https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=eVmEjdoD2x8<\/a> with the title<\/div>\n
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I was curious what kind of camera you are using, its lens and horizontal field of view.\u00a0 There are thousands of live webcams on the Internet now, and no standards for documentation.\u00a0 I personally think it would be good if they all gave their latitude, longitude, height above sea level, azimuth and elevation (direction angles for the direction of the center of the view), camera type, focal length, horizontal and vertical field of view, magnification.<\/div>\n
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The reason I like to know those things is I enjoy machine vision problems and like to know how far away or how large things are in images. I want to know what I am seeing and things about each location.\u00a0 I keep your video live on one of my screens sometimes just for enjoyment.\u00a0 Like looking out my window while I am working.<\/div>\n
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Just now the moon was showing for a short time.\u00a0 In some frames it was larger than in other frames.\u00a0 There was a bit of fog, so the light was spread our uniformly.\u00a0 Sometimes the moon appeared larger.\u00a0 I even enlarged it (I wrote a little magnifier program) and counted the pixels.\u00a0 In some frames it was about 40 pixels wide, and then a few minutes later when the clouds were open again, it looked to be 44 pixels wide.\u00a0 The moon is about 387,000 km away today (I googled “How far away is the moon today?” and the moon’s radius (“moons radius in km”) is 1731.1 km so the angle is 2*arctan(1731.1\/387000) = 0.513 degrees.\u00a0 My screen is 1920 pixels wide, so (1920\/40)*0.513 degrees would be 24.6 degrees horizontal field of view.\u00a0 And (1920\/44)*0.513 degrees would be 22.4 degree for horizontal field of view.<\/div>\n
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Those times when the moon is showing, some very beautiful snapshots and short and long sequence are lost forever because the record only goes back the last 12 hours.\u00a0 There is not a courteous and easy way to record and share images of this one webcam, and think of all the lost data and opportunities from all the thousands of webcams globally now. That includes many scientific cameras from telescopes, microscopes and experiments of all kinds.<\/div>\n
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Now I found a Wikipedia article on “Angle of View” at https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Angle_of_view<\/a> and it says that you need to know the physical size of the sensor in the camera.\u00a0 They use<\/div>\n
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AngleOfView = 2*ArcTan(SensorSizeMillimeters\/2*FocalLengthMillimeters)<\/div>\n
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So I was trying to guess or figure out what camera.\u00a0 Now you have one camera there and I can kind of guess. But with possibly tens of thousands of live cameras on the Internet now, is every person supposed to guess which camera, where it is, what direction it is pointing, its sensor size and lens configuration?\u00a0 It seems that should be basic information that should be readily available.<\/div>\n
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I am trying to write some image enhancement tools for videos.\u00a0 A simple stacking program to use the motion of the moon and stars and planets and an pixel averaging algorithm can improve the quality of the images.\u00a0 For these slowly varying fixed view cameras, that could mean a simple program on the viewers computer in Javascript can improve the viewing enjoyment for such scenes and are now available. The magnifier I made is 10x and I can use really basic super resolution methods (tracking and stacking.\u00a0 NASA says “drizzling” for some reason).\u00a0 Anyway, it helps me to see better.<\/div>\n
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I am supposed to write standards for the whole Internet.\u00a0 I took on the Internet Foundation back in 1998 after the original Internet Foundation was cancelled for US political reasons.\u00a0 I think it is a good idea for all the webcams to identify the location, direction of the camera (if they are panning, zooming and tilting, then some summary of that sequence of viewing changes).<\/div>\n
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Now the camera title says it is Odaiba, Tokyo, Japan and I can search for that on Google maps and see an overhead view by old satellite photo.\u00a0 I don’t know exactly where the camera is located.\u00a0 And I really don’t know Tokyo skyline from that direction.\u00a0 So not sure what those building are at the far right.\u00a0 So I cannot easily determine the angle that way.<\/div>\n
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I found this Wikipedia article on Odaiba that is interesting, but hard to connect to the webcam.\u00a0 https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Odaiba<\/a><\/div>\n
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Ideally, there would be a simple javascript overlay for the webcam.\u00a0 It would be a transparent div that would fit the video frame with hotspots to identify the things in the video.\u00a0 For the PTZ (pan tilt zoom) cameras it would have to be time dependent.\u00a0 But it is not hard programming.\u00a0 Just takes a little effort to coordinate and locate things.<\/div>\n
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As I am writing this, I am thinking of the many beach, city skyline, river, snow resort, mountain, weather camera, traffic camera, wildlife camera, and tourist places I have seen in these live videos on YouTube (and elsewhere).\u00a0 All the viewers must have the same questions I do:\u00a0 Where is this?\u00a0 What direction is the camera pointing (now)?\u00a0 What is the magnification in pixels so I can relate that to my screen?<\/div>\n
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And most importantly, what am I seeing? What is that building? What is that bridge?\u00a0 Are there other views?\u00a0 Are there webpages that explain things?\u00a0 Are there tours or hotels or local resources I can connect to?<\/div>\n
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I found more and more “all sky” cameras too. These are wide angle view of the whole sky. They are for astronomy and weather mainly, depending on the interests of the person setting it up.\u00a0 A few very slow (1 frame per minute, 1 frame every five minutes) all sky cameras are used at observatories.\u00a0 But I live in a city (Houston) and never see the stars.\u00a0 Often I don’t see the moon or sun for days or weeks at a time.\u00a0 There are about 90 sunny days in Houston out of 365.\u00a0 So about a quarter of the time you can see the sun and moon.\u00a0 And I live near downtown, so light pollution is horrible.<\/div>\n
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Anyway all the live webcams with some bit of sky in them (Your view has full sky for roughly the top 475 pixels out of 1080 on my screen down to the tops of the tallest buildings. And some places where it goes down to 518 pixels between the buildings. That is just less than half the whole screen is sky. Wonderful when there are clear skies and I can see the moon and planets, sun and stars and galaxies. And for my interest in meteorology, it is possible to look up the coordinates and details of every single thing.\u00a0 Including (gradually) things like space stations, LOTS of satellites, comets, reentry of satellites now and then, planes and maybe a few ufos.\u00a0 Lightning detection is now to where they can image the tracks in 3D.\u00a0 The weather maps can be mapped onto the screen from the viewers point of view.<\/div>\n
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If a webcam is going to be seen by million of viewers over many years (decades?) then perhaps my idea is right.\u00a0 Maybe there should be standards of practice — serving students, and people of all ages and interests.<\/div>\n
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What do you think?\u00a0 I would like to know.<\/div>\n
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Can you tell me the technical details of the camera?\u00a0 Model, location, direction, lens, magnification?\u00a0 Would you like to put an overlay?\u00a0 I am NOT selling things, but for the many viewers of this beautiful scene, i would like them to know what they are looking at.<\/div>\n
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I see you have other live video feeds 24\/7.\u00a0 They are listed at https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UC-iKt6xd8uD-8_kXRfPY7Jw<\/a> You might want to also have English titles.\u00a0 You CAN put descriptive materials in the description field below each webcam video on their pages. There is room for links and contact information.\u00a0 And information about the camera.<\/p>\n

I copied my local ABC13 weathercam owners.\u00a0 I had suggested to them they put an “all sky” camera on top of their other cameras that only show a tiny portion of the skyline.\u00a0 And I copied Chris Ober from our local astronomy club because I was suggesting they host an all sky camera for all Houstonians (“how many Houstonians are there?” about 6.5 million).\u00a0 A clear sky site not far from Houston would at least let all Houstonians see a live, high quality (and indexed) map of the night sky and day sky.\u00a0 I have personal interests, and I have global interests.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Houston ABC13 Live Webcam1: https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=hjqbpnigAHA<\/a><\/div>\n
Houston ABC13 Live Webcam2: https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=c5_w4yGHmNQ<\/a><\/div>\n
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“How many people live in large cities?”\u00a0 The UN says 54%. Globally that is just over 4 Billion people who seldom see clear skies.\u00a0 But in the United States, more than 80% of people live in large cities. That is over 250 Million US citizens who cannot see the stars.\u00a0 Light pollution, buildings, distractions, and pollution sometimes.<\/div>\n
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Sincere regards,<\/div>\n
Richard K Collins, Director, The Internet Foundation<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Dear Reader, I am watching your live webcam at https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=eVmEjdoD2x8 with the title \u30ec\u30a4\u30f3\u30dc\u30fc\u30d6\u30ea\u30c3\u30b8\u3068\u6771\u4eac\u30bf\u30ef\u30fc\u3000\uff14K\u30e9\u30a4\u30d6\u30ab\u30e1\u30e9\u3001\u304a\u53f0\u5834\u6771\u4eac\u3001\u9ad8\u5c64\u30de\u30f3\u30b7\u30e7\u30f3\u304b\u3089\u30e9\u30a4\u30d6\u914d\u4fe1\u3002\u9996\u90fd\u9ad8\u901f\u53f0\u5834\u7dda\u3001\u304a\u5929\u6c17\u30ab\u30e1\u30e9\u304a\u53f0\u5834\u6771\u4eac\u3002\u3010\u3061\u3093\u3042\u306a\u3054\u3011Livecamera RainbowBridge I was curious what kind of camera you are using, its lens and horizontal field of view.\u00a0 There are thousands of live webcams on the Internet now, and no standards for documentation.\u00a0 I personally think it would be good if
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